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Oxalate Stones In A Schnauzer
by clekx - June 2, 2009
Hi Steve,
I'm hoping to get your opinion on a case. He's a new to me patient, 13 year old schnauzer and has a history of having calcium oxalate bladder stones, had them removed 3 times and apparently the last surgery had a few complications. He has a few lipomas, lowered energy and has always been a picky eater. His pulse was thin, tight and fairly superficial. His tongue threw me off as it was almost a peachy colour and shiny when I first looked. I re-checked a little later and probably imagined a more pink. he's on a urinary dry diet so I've given them a recipe for a home cooked food and wanted to try some herbs. I thought about San Ren Tang because of the stones but would really appreciate your input.
Thanks
Charoul
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by naturevet
June 2, 2009
Hi Charoul,

The two main considerations in my mind for calcium oxalate stones are San Ren Tang, as you said, but also Dang Gui Shao Yao San. The latter formula works so often in Schnauzers it should almost be re-named the Schnauzer formula. The pulse is a better fit for Blood deficiency, which Dang Gui Shao Yao San treats as well. The formula is designed to deal with Spleen deficiency and its two sequela, Damp and Blood deficiency (leading to Blood stasis). The way I confirm which one to use is via acupuncture to active points. If needling BL 17 or 18 moderates that pulse, I'd go with Dang Gui Shao Yao San.

Lastly, once you've picked your herbs, I like to use potassium citrate orally for a few weeks or a month, to kick start the stone dissolution process. I don't know that it's absolutely necessary, but it seems to work.

Good luck and let us know how it goes for you!

Steve
by clekx
June 3, 2009
Thank you for taking the time to give your advice it is much appreciated. I will follow your suggestion and let you know how it goes.
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June 3, 2009
I have a schnauzer I have been seeing for about 8 months, who presented for prevention of oxalate urolithiasis. Shortly after I saw it the first time, it got pancreatitis. Long story short, I changed to a home-cooked low oxalate diet with supplements, and Dan Gui Xiao Yao San. It has had no oxalate stones, crystals or pancreatitis for 4 months. It has, however, had a UTI-E coli I believe. So I add cranberry and Si Miao San after antibiotics and that's done well so far.
by naturevet
June 3, 2009
Nice work, Jodi!

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