I have a client that is wondering if chanca piedra is useful to help prevent uroliths in guinea pigs. I read that they are helpful for calcium oxalate stones and typically guinea pigs get calcium carbonate stones.
Thanks!
Leticia
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Chanca Piedra For Uroliths: Guinea Pigs
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bunnydoc
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October 1, 2019
I have a client that is wondering if chanca piedra is useful to help prevent uroliths in guinea pigs. I read that they are helpful for calcium oxalate stones and typically guinea pigs get calcium carbonate stones.
Thanks!
Leticia
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by
naturevet
October 4, 2019
Hi Leticia,
As far as I can tell from a quick look on Pubmed, it is targeting the calcium, helping it to dissolve in the urine, rather than the oxalate
Steve
As far as I can tell from a quick look on Pubmed, it is targeting the calcium, helping it to dissolve in the urine, rather than the oxalate
Steve
by
bunnydoc
October 4, 2019
Thanks, Steve! Is there something at Natural Path you would recommend?
by
naturevet
October 4, 2019
Our belief is that the 'core' problem of stone formation is a proteinaceous nidus that is formed from ongoing renal tubular injury. Since they are just epithelial cells, they can be replaced, and the animals don't often manifest azotemia. This generally occurs in response to an excessively processed diet.
To remedy the problem, we move towards fresh food (and hay) and start using renal anti-inflammatory formulas like San Ren Tang. I would say if you have lots of time (i.e. no obstructions or extreme discomfort), then maybe pursue that for a bit. The goal is to stop stones from forming rather than focus on their dissolution. My theory is that they are always dissolving steadily, and that when see them persist on radiographs on in the urine, we are actually looking at new stones and crystals
Steve
To remedy the problem, we move towards fresh food (and hay) and start using renal anti-inflammatory formulas like San Ren Tang. I would say if you have lots of time (i.e. no obstructions or extreme discomfort), then maybe pursue that for a bit. The goal is to stop stones from forming rather than focus on their dissolution. My theory is that they are always dissolving steadily, and that when see them persist on radiographs on in the urine, we are actually looking at new stones and crystals
Steve
by
bunnydoc
October 7, 2019
Thanks, Steve. I completely agree that the goal is prevention. We already removed one stone from this guinea pig and we do not want to repeat that.
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