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Another Osteosarcoma
by lsargent - February 23, 2010
Good Morning
Steve,

I recently saw a 6y/o f/s Brazilian Mastiff with "new" diagnosis of osteo on the left medial carpus (Lung meridian). She is fully weight bearing on a NSAID called Novox from another DVM and is still bouncing like crazy-the owenrr is trying to keep her more quiet. I wanted to start her on the Hoxsey-like formula but she saw another holistic DVM and is on strict orders to change nothing until her rechecks her in a week. Currently he put her on Mi-T-cell which is supposed to stimulate T cells and another supplement to stimulate NK cells.
She is on a home cooked diet but I am having the owner change the high content of bread and pasta to other grains and then gradually back down from there to more veggies of the darker colors sfter explaining that she was feeding the tumor.

Now the really intersting fact about this patient is when she was spayed at 5m, she became urinary incontinent! Isn't that a major sign of Spleen Qi deficiency? Doesn't the Lu/Sp combo make the Tai Yin meridian? Am I trying to make a connection that really isn't there? She has been on Proin since that time. She was also a fire constitution but has become less aggressive and has morphed her fire into play dominance not aggression. The other vet also has her on symphytum BID to address the potential fracture ussue, I guess, but doesn't that assist boney remodeling and couldn't that exacerbate the tumor growth?

I will be talking to her next week to see what the other DVM says and if I can start any patent formulas but I kinda wanted to have a basis to start from. The other DVM is promising 3 more years and since I am not making any promises but to improve the quality of her life until the time, well you understand why I am playing the second fiddle in this orchestra.

Final question, the owner also has another doctor, I believe an MD prescribing and herbal tea. Instead of brewing the tea, the owner is sprinkling it on the food-doesn't this change the energetics of the herbs? If they are suppposed to be steeped in water, feeding them cold changes the action? I am currently trying to learn the herbal combination in the tea.

Thank you for "listening" to my ramblings and assisting my journey,

Lois
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by naturevet
February 24, 2010
Hi Lois,

Interesting case. Generally, if anti-inflammatories help, then so might Hoxsey. The SP/LU tonification notion is interesting, but if we prescribed on that basis, we might end up heightening the inflammation of the tumor. So we need to take it one step at a time. I agree that the guarantees the other vet is handing out are gutsy, and more than I would feel comfortable guaranteeing, so I too would want to hang back and pay close attention to what they're doing, in the hopes we can learn something. Please find out the supplement that is being used, so we can all learn.

As for Symphytum, no problem using it. Despite protecting from fractures, it's been shown to be anti-neoplastic.

As for the tea, technically cooking is needed for maximal effects in monogastrics and animals with short GI tracts. In ruminants and herbivores, the herbs seem to 'cook' in the GI tract by themselves, but I agree that in humans, dogs, and cats, it's better to have them heated and already having interacted first.

Let us know what happens. I'm always intrigued when practitioners are so confident, especially about tough disorders.

Fingers crossed,

Steve
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